Has God anything more to say to us?
Is it possible that if another Teacher were sent by God into the world that the world would recognize Him? What would our requirements of such a Teacher be? In mounting such a set of requirements, would we not be dictating to God?
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Permalink Reply by Betsy Whitfill on -
Dear Maynard,
That is a very useful question. What do you think? I wonder if perhaps it is a bit of
both....but that "salvation theology" easily trades on preservation instincts. What is an
antidote to this fear?
Maynard said:Dear Betsy,
Is there a native fear which causes people to seek salvation? Or does salvation theology breed the fear?
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"So perhaps there is value in alerting the neophyte hopefully an aspirant, but not necessarily, to Biblical injunctions to look within, trust what is within etc. Then, using the guidance you provided below, begin to draw the neophyte inward and upward?" Betsy
Yes, I think for some Christians they need Biblical injunctions, but others just need a rational explanation or a taste of the experience. I feel some Christians can appreciate that God created all things, Christians can transform their conscience to one of unity and harmony that attracts health and good fortune. I feel the mental concept of the unity of all things provides the mind directed to this one God with life, meaning and power because it can rest and recharge the batteries of one’s physical and mental processes so it can better pursue life with renewed energy and clearer thought. The mind functions better with thoughts that there is only one, living and omnipresent God because it is not afraid. To understand and have honest relationships our minds need to be in a state of relaxation and to be able to access the deepest spiritual experience because the mind can understand and accept things, when it believes God created everything in unity with all things. This spiritual truth with sufficient evidence renews the mind and increases it’s capacity to grow in the conceptual knowledge of God. As a Christian I feel when I am with a Muslim I can use this concept to make him a better Muslim. He does not have to become a Christian. I can make a Hindu, a Sufi, or any spiritual aspirant better, just like they have made me a better Christian
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And what role does the heart play in this redirection? I've found that the brain is a rather analytic machine, a computer, which does not have a direction. But perhaps you are referring to the mind as something more than just the brain?
Soma said:"So perhaps there is value in alerting the neophyte hopefully an aspirant, but not necessarily, to Biblical injunctions to look within, trust what is within etc. Then, using the guidance you provided below, begin to draw the neophyte inward and upward?" Betsy
Yes, I think for some Christians they need Biblical injunctions, but others just need a rational explanation or a taste of the experience. I feel some Christians can appreciate that God created all things, Christians can transform their conscience to one of unity and harmony that attracts health and good fortune. I feel the mental concept of the unity of all things provides the mind directed to this one God with life, meaning and power because it can rest and recharge the batteries of one’s physical and mental processes so it can better pursue life with renewed energy and clearer thought. The mind functions better with thoughts that there is only one, living and omnipresent God because it is not afraid. To understand and have honest relationships our minds need to be in a state of relaxation and to be able to access the deepest spiritual experience because the mind can understand and accept things, when it believes God created everything in unity with all things. This spiritual truth with sufficient evidence renews the mind and increases it’s capacity to grow in the conceptual knowledge of God. As a Christian I feel when I am with a Muslim I can use this concept to make him a better Muslim. He does not have to become a Christian. I can make a Hindu, a Sufi, or any spiritual aspirant better, just like they have made me a better Christian
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"And what role does the heart play in this redirection? I've found that the brain is a rather analytic machine, a computer, which does not have a direction. But perhaps you are referring to the mind as something more than just the brain?" Betsy
My brain can't explain my mind and when people ask who I am I don't point to my brain. We usually point to our hearts.
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'A Totally New Disease Pattern'
Doctors Shaken By Outbreak's Neurological Devastation
At first, doctors were most concerned about the kidneys of patients with enterohaemorrhagic E. coli, or EHEC. In the past week, howver, it has become apparent that neurological side effects of the bacterial infection could be even worse. By SPIEGEL StaffFOR SURE GOD IS TELLING US SOMETHING...
UNCURABLE DISEASES,EXTREME WEATHER,EARTHQUIKE, NEW WAVE OF PEOPLE POWER,COLLASPE OF SELFISH DICTATOR,LEADERS..ALL HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME AND THEY ARE GETTING WORSE...PLEASE VIEW ' JUDGEMENT DOOMSDAY " ON YOUTUBE..GPDC DECLARE IN 1987 THAT DOOMSDAY IS OVER JUDGEMENT ON HUMAN HAS BEGUN...THANK sorry about full cap..peace and love
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Permalink Reply by Betsy Whitfill on
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Your Youtube video: "Judgement Doomsday" is an extensive look at
media accounts of the disasters and blessings in humanity's recent
history. Thanks for doing that, and letting us know. How long, do you
think, will it take for humanity to save itself? Do you think that the recent
huge numbers of UFO's reported are come to help?
peace and love.....
GPDC said:'A Totally New Disease Pattern'
Doctors Shaken By Outbreak's Neurological Devastation
At first, doctors were most concerned about the kidneys of patients with enterohaemorrhagic E. coli, or EHEC. In the past week, howver, it has become apparent that neurological side effects of the bacterial infection could be even worse. By SPIEGEL StaffFOR SURE GOD IS TELLING US SOMETHING...
UNCURABLE DISEASES,EXTREME WEATHER,EARTHQUIKE, NEW WAVE OF PEOPLE POWER,COLLASPE OF SELFISH DICTATOR,LEADERS..ALL HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME AND THEY ARE GETTING WORSE...PLEASE VIEW ' JUDGEMENT DOOMSDAY " ON YOUTUBE..GPDC DECLARE IN 1987 THAT DOOMSDAY IS OVER JUDGEMENT ON HUMAN HAS BEGUN...THANK sorry about full cap..peace and love
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Permalink Reply by GPDC on
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Well Besty, it has been near to 25 years since gpdc has inform the world regard what we have received from Divine. letters were sent out follow with email that Judgement on human has begun, when at the same time Doomsday is over..not many yet able to actually see what is going on...look like it will take a while before the rest of world come together but we pray that it wont be too long..when preaching cant work for human with too much of sin created punishment come in..its all God doing to wake proud elegance humans being up...so how long it will take we have no received yet and no ,we dont beleive in UFO..it might be Angels they saw , they do light up the sky if you can "see" them love and peace..We might be putting up a slide show at 2014 meet..Would you like to attend? love to discuss further..by the way what your opinion regard all these happening? thanks
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Permalink Reply by Betsy Whitfill on
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GPDC, do you think that people, all people everywhere...of all religions...who see these "signs of the times" which you have so eloquently documented in your video, should, could get together and call on God to send the Messenger who will lead the way forward, and teach us to save ourselves?
Do you think that that is something the Parliament of World Religions, in 2014, should make possible?
Does anyone reading these posts think that is possible?
GPDC said:Well Besty, it has been near to 25 years since gpdc has inform the world regard what we have received from Divine. letters were sent out follow with email that Judgement on human has begun, when at the same time Doomsday is over..not many yet able to actually see what is going on...look like it will take a while before the rest of world come together but we pray that it wont be too long..when preaching cant work for human with too much of sin created punishment come in..its all God doing to wake proud elegance humans being up...so how long it will take we have no received yet and no ,we dont beleive in UFO..it might be Angels they saw , they do light up the sky if you can "see" them love and peace..We might be putting up a slide show at 2014 meet..Would you like to attend? love to discuss further..by the way what your opinion regard all these happening? thanks
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We are not sure ourself then , as you have mention how could it possible for all to come together, We are sure eventually they will, not necessary through "us", for it is HE who control everythings now through HIS DIVINE VIBRATION that landed around 1987..some can feel HIS VIBRATION but some can't..DIVINE VIBRATION attach to everyone on this earth and being guided wether you know it or like or not for we have no choice now..don't worry if you are good you be bless if you are bad you be punish..we beleived they are many like us in this world that received the same messages but didnt surface yet..
Just like the revolution against communism right after we sent out our received in 1987, people power started then , it happen so suddenly and million in eastblock stand together and overthrow those cruel and selfish dictators..it was over within 3 years..Times magazine call 1988 a year of miracles..then in china..students came together and pass a strong messages to their goverment and now 2011 in middle east , media call it spring of middle east , all this happening we call "people power" , why suddenly people have no fear of death all walk to the street and protest..all this are not coinsident..not any human can move these protest except HIM and HIS Angels..look further ......
Why you chose a title " Have God anything more to tell us....that the PERFECT TITLE for us to talk about what GPDC received, you got the highest hits isnt that great..pack with our research we don't follow blindly we ask for proofs then and the proofs stung us and we never turn back..
Religions are declining all over the world, the happening is part of the package..no more messagers just each individually surrender to our Creator, Creator of the whole universe..no more spiritual leaders..or else another religious group will form and we already have too many..No one will able to imagine berlin wall can fall in 1988,and natural disasters are getting worse forcing world leaders to come together to face the same problems unwillingly but they have no choice..that will let us realise what ever religion you are in it can't protect you against the judgement..how hard one can pray dont seem to work anymore HE want human to wake up to see that HE is in control now..unless we pray together as one..no more spiritual leaders..scandal in religion expose selfish leader one by one , it show they are all only human..the one that call himself the creator had just die..
For human as a whole are too proud and selfish and some even making use of HIS name to kill..to cheat..like the latest doomsday scam in america and taiwan , human are the real devil since then and even now....of course they are good one too..They will be bless..
GPDC have no followers, only few of us, we don't ask anything from anyone.we don't ask for donation or carry any spiritual title...we don't even need to convine anyone..we just share message that's it..
When we attend parliament in1990 we dont know what to expect..it is our first time taking part in any religious gathering oversea..surprisingly we met up with subud group who we sent first letter to in 1987..and few that reply , its their first time too..Council of parliment got very active starting 1988...?
After 25 years seeing all miracles happen again and again infront of us..we are very sure all humans will eventually come together to HIM for humans we have no choice now Thanks peace and love ps sorry for my bad english
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Permalink Reply by Betsy Whitfill on
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GPDC, please read within the paragraphs below and it will be easier to discuss this way.
The bold type is the only way I see to distinguish your words from mine.
Love and Peace,
Betsy
GPDC said:We are not sure ourself then , as you have mention how could it possible for all to come together, We are sure eventually they will, not necessary through "us", for it is HE who control everythings now through HIS DIVINE VIBRATION that landed around 1987..some can feel HIS VIBRATION but some can't..DIVINE VIBRATION attach to everyone on this earth and being guided wether you know it or like or not for we have no choice now..don't worry if you are good you be bless if you are bad you be punish..we beleived they are many like us in this world that received the same messages but didnt surface yet..
Just like the revolution against communism right after we sent out our received in 1987, people power started then , it happen so suddenly and million in eastblock stand together and overthrow those cruel and selfish dictators..it was over within 3 years..Times magazine call 1988 a year of miracles..then in china..students came together and pass a strong messages to their goverment and now 2011 in middle east , media call it spring of middle east , all this happening we call "people power" , why suddenly people have no fear of death all walk to the street and protest..all this are not coinsident..not any human can move these protest except HIM and HIS Angels..look further ......
Why you chose a title " Have God anything more to tell us....that the PERFECT TITLE for us to talk about what GPDC received, you got the highest hits isnt that great..pack with our research we don't follow blindly we ask for proofs then and the proofs stung us and we never turn back..
Religions are declining all over the world, the happening is part of the package..no more messagers just each individually surrender to our Creator, Creator of the whole universe..no more spiritual leaders..or else another religious group will form and we already have too many..
Some say that the great Teachers (The Buddha, The Christ, The Mahde, Krishna) are not religious teachers. Their followers started religions, but these great Men did not even want religions to be created in their names. Many were persecuted by priests. Could it be that God speaks to all, but many do not or cannot listen, cannot or do not hear. Perhaps that is why the Teachers are sent to us. Those who cannot register God's vibration need to be taught in other ways?
No one will able to imagine berlin wall can fall in 1988,and natural disasters are getting worse forcing world leaders to come together to face the same problems unwillingly but they have no choice..that will let us realise what ever religion you are in it can't protect you against the judgement..how hard one can pray dont seem to work anymore HE want human to wake up to see that HE is in control now..unless we pray together as one..no more spiritual leaders..scandal in religion expose selfish leader one by one , it show they are all only human..the one that call himself the creator had just die..
Do you mean Sai Baba? Swami Premananda? Some other Teacher?
There is the World Teacher, name of Maitreya, who comes, it is said, for people of every religion and no religion at all. He does not want followers, and says "If you run after me, you will lose me. I am all around you and in you as Love".
For human as a whole are too proud and selfish and some even making use of HIS name to kill..to cheat..like the latest doomsday scam in america and taiwan , human are the real devil since then and even now....of course they are good one too..They will be bless..
Yes, people can be quite evil. Do you think that the Law of Cause and Effect, of Karma, is
something that most people can understand, and respect, if they know about it?
GPDC have no followers, only few of us, we don't ask anything from anyone.we don't ask for donation or carry any spiritual title...we don't even need to convine anyone..we just share message that's it..
Yes, that is what Share International does too, share the message and that's it..
When we attend parliament in1990 we dont know what to expect..it is our first time taking part in any religious gathering oversea..surprisingly we met up with subud group who we sent first letter to in 1987..and few that reply , its their first time too..Council of parliment got very active starting 1988...?
Yes, that is why it could be the most helpful gathering of people who all together, within their diverse traditions, call for Guidance to the One God. If we are really One Humanity, we can
ask God as One Group...all together now. We see the "signs", we hear the Thunder, are we ready?
After 25 years seeing all miracles happen again and again infront of us..we are very sure all humans will eventually come together to HIM for humans we have no choice now Thanks peace and love ps sorry for my bad english
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Permalink Reply by GPDC on
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I think the different between what your beleived and ours is that you beleived that we need another teacher to guide us..but dont you think pass great teachers are good enough?
They share almost the same messages..most important is to be a good human beings help each other out...nothing more nothing less, what more can your teacher add on to theirs.and how sure that they wont be twisted like before..
Our teacher is the Creator..no human involve..His vibration cover the whole world now and attach to each human being..open up their mind and heart..bad be punish good be bless..how powerful you are or what position you hold dont matter to HIM.
.Look at the lattest happening in middle east, DIVINE VIBRATION are behind all these same as what happen in 1988,1989..in eastern europe and china..actual fact 2005 NEWSWEEK magazine mention the beginning of .people power across the Arab world..
Several well know magazines has call these happening as MIRACLES..
After natural disater human hearts are open up ..rival countries help each other out..None of spiritual leaders nor political
No spiritual leaders nor political leaders claim that is their doing..Rival countris War ships planes and soilders are use to carry relief goods to disaster area..as in tsunami in indonesia..and more examples..
Natural disaster, uncurable diseases humble doctors and scientists some think ther is no GOD..
Hiv,Sars,Pig flu,Dog flu,Bird flu all related to animal seeing what humans do to them..a revenge from animal kingdom..Extreme natural disaster a revenge from mother nature..
By the way..did your organisation put up a stand at melbourne parliment?
We apologise if we insult anyone,we have no intention of doing that..peace and love GPDC
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Permalink Reply by Betsy Whitfill on
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GPDC said:
I think the different between what your beleived and ours is that you beleived that we need another teacher to guide us..but dont you think pass great teachers are good enough?
Certainly they were good Teachers, but man's context changes and so the emphasis of the Truth They teach (and yes, as you say, They all teach essentially the same Truth) changes. Every 2000 years or so, the energies which saturate our Earth and are qualities of the DIVINE VIBRATION of which you speak, change...slowly but definately. We experience shifts in consciousness as we respond to these new quaities of the DIVINE VIBRATIONS. We are shifting now from the qualities of individualism and idealism to the qualities of Brotherhood, Synthesis, Right Relationships (based on Love, Justice). The Teachers come at the beginning of this change to teach the "new ways"...the ways which, if followed, will bring happiness, harmony. Maitreya brings the emphasis on Love, Sharing resources, and Justice, which humanity has forgotten in our haste to reach for the Ideals at the expense of our relationships.
They share almost the same messages..most important is to be a good human beings help each other out...nothing more nothing less, what more can your teacher add on to theirs.and how sure that they wont be twisted like before..
Yes, as you say, what is important is to be good human beings and help each other out. That has always been true, but people distort what "good" means, and they try to fool themselves and others.
Maitreya comes Himself so as to avoid His message being twisted. Historically, the Teachers have come and worked through Disciples, but this time He has come Himself and with His Disciples so that the message of "good", as you say, will be spread to all traditions and languages and countries. It is a world-wide project.
Our teacher is the Creator..no human involve..His vibration cover the whole world now and attach to each human being..open up their mind and heart..bad be punish good be bless..how powerful you are or what position you hold dont matter to HIM.
Yes, it is indeed a privilege to be on Earth at this time. Maitreya embodies the Love aspect of God, which Love He pours over the world hourly, daily.
.Look at the lattest happening in middle east, DIVINE VIBRATION are behind all these same as what happen in 1988,1989..in eastern europe and china..actual fact 2005 NEWSWEEK magazine mention the beginning of .people power across the Arab world..
Several well know magazines has call these happening as MIRACLES..
After natural disater human hearts are open up ..rival countries help each other out..None of spiritual leaders nor political
No spiritual leaders nor political leaders claim that is their doing..Rival countris War ships planes and soilders are use to carry relief goods to disaster area..as in tsunami in indonesia..and more examples..
Yes, it is Love in action. And people respond.
Natural disaster, uncurable diseases humble doctors and scientists some think ther is no GOD..
Hiv,Sars,Pig flu,Dog flu,Bird flu all related to animal seeing what humans do to them..a revenge from animal kingdom..Extreme natural disaster a revenge from mother nature..
The new DIVINE VIBRATION, as you say, stimulates both the flowers and the weeds. Also, as you say, we are learning that there is a terrible price to pay for our "sins". Yes.
By the way..did your organisation put up a stand at melbourne parliment?
Yes, I think the Australian group did have a booth there.
We apologise if we insult anyone,we have no intention of doing that..peace and love GPDC
Not at all. We are sharing ideas and as we share, we increase our thoughtfulness.
There are many paths to GOD.
Peace and Love,
Betsy
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