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17. Ratnatrayasutra

Precepts On Three Jewels

(A) Vyavahara-Ratnatraya

The three jewels understood from the stand-point of vyavahara-naya (practical view-point).

Dhammadisaddahanam, sammattam nanamangapuvvagadam.

Cittha tavamsi cariyha, vavaharo mokkhamaggo tti. (209)

To have faith in the existence of (substances like) dharma etc. is right faith, to have acquaintance with the texts called Anga and Purva is right knowledge, to perserve in the performance of penance is right conduct. These three constitute the pathway-to-emancipation understood from the standpoint vyavahara-naya. (208)

Nanena janai bhave, damsanena ya saddahe.

Carittena niginhai, tavena parisujjhai. (209)

One understands by his (right) knowledge the nature of substances, develops belief in them by his (right) faith and controls himself by his (right) conduct and purifies his soul by penance (i.e., austerities). (209)

Nanam carittahinam, limgaggahanam ca damsanvihinam.

Samjamahinam ca tavam, jo carai niratthayam tassa. (210)

Knowledge without right conduct, acceptance of the asceticism without right faith and observance of austerities without self-control are all futile. (210)

Nadamsanissa nanam, nanena vina na humti caranaguna.

Agunissa natthi mokkho, natthi amokkhassa nivvanam. (211)

Without right faith, there cannot be right knowledge; without right knowledge, there cannot be right conduct; without right conduct, there cannot be release from Karmas; without release of Karmas there cannot be nirvana (salvation). (211)

Hayam nanam kiyahinam, haya annanao kiya.

Pasamto pamgulo daddho, dhavamano ya andhao. (212)

Right knowledge is of no use in the absence of right conduct, action is of no use in the absence of right knowledge. Certainly, in the case of conflagration the lame man burns down even if capable of seeing while the blind man burns down even if capable of running away. (212)

Samjoasiddhii phalam vayanti, na jhu egacakkena raho paydi.

Andho ya pamgu ya vane samicca, te sampautta nagaram pavittha. (213)

The desired result is attained when there is a harmony between right knowledge and right conduct, for a chariot does not move by one wheel. This is like a lame man and a blind man come together in a forest and manage to reach the town with the help of one another. (213)

(B) Niscaya-Ratnatraya

The three jewels understood from the standpoint of niscaya-naya (real view-point.)

Sammaddamsanananam, eso lahadi tti navari vavadesam.

Savvanayapakkharahido, bhanido jo so samayasaro. (214)

The self is characterised by right faith and right knowledge is merely an assertion (by vyavaharanaya). In reality what transcends all points of view is said to be the Self (Samayasara) (214)

Damsanananacarittani, sevidavvani sahuna niccam.

Tani puna jana tinni vi, appanam ceva nicchayado. (215)

From practical point of view faith, knowledge and conduct should always be cherished by saints. But they must know that from real point of view these three are the self. (215)

Nicchayanayena bhanido, tihi tehim samahido hu jo appa.

Na kunadi kimci vi annam, na muyadi so mokkhamaggo tti. (216)

It is said from the real point of view that, the soul who comprises all the three together; and does not act otherwise or depart from this even in the slightest degree, follows the path of Liberation. (216)

Appa appammi rao, sammaitthi havei phudu jivo.

Janai tam sannanam, caradiha carittamaggo tti. (217)

Right faith means a soul engrossed in itself; Right knowledge is knowledge of the real (nature of) the sould; Right conduct consists in faithful pursuit of that path. (217)

Aya hu maham nane, aya me damsane caritte ya.

Aya paccakkhane, aya me samjame joge. (218)

Certainly, my soul is my right knowledge, my right faith, my right conduct, my renunciation of evil acts, my self-restraint and my meditation. (218)

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Dear brother Swamiji,

It may seem as if all faiths agree their own faith is the right path.  We believe this to be true, and that none of these right paths must neccessarily mutually exclude one another.

However, when we read scriptures describing themselves as the right path, too often we may read such a statement as exclduing other religions and paths.

We wonder how such wisdom as you are sharing with us here may accept an equal placement with all other religions?

We understand one must be very careful to stick to the written word of holy scriptures.  However, if we are to build peace, then we may need to recontext all of our scriptures in a meta-context, a larger context, that allows us to share our beliefs with confidence that what we learn from one another supports us all and must support all of our faiths as well to do so.

Thank you for sharing these three points.

We are delighted to explore with you to learn more about right faith, right knowledge, and right conduct.  These three themes seem universal to all people regardless of our respective cultural heritage.

 

Namaste

 

Dear brother Swamiji,

May we ask more about the interpetation of part of what you have shared here with the Three Jewels?

We are inquiring about this part near the end of your post:

,,, 'Right faith means a soul engrossed in itself'

May we ask you what this means in more detail?

We see possibilities here we like very much, but we would enjoy hearing your own views first, before possibly posting some misunderstanding that might make matters more confusing.

 

Thank you.

 

Namaste

 

Avyaktha pranamagalu

Latest media - Web media- attracts the most of the younger generations - feeding most necessity food- helps one and all to peace and prosporous world at  the earliest. Request one and all to act in this respect.

Thank you brother Shubhakara,

You have made two very good points here.

We have begun to record videos to instruct the young and old alike.  We will record our future history, How the Earth Made Peace, and much more, to do our best to teach the path of peace to all.

This is good advice you make about teaching.  We hope many gifted people here at PeaceNext, such as our brother Swamiji, perhaps, will try to share their wisdom in videos.

The more accessible we make the message of World Peace the faster it may spread.

We are not sure if you mean feeding physical hunger when you say 'feeding most neccessity food- helps one and all to peace...' or if you mean feeding wisdom, we think perhaps you mean both.

Feeding wisdom only seems to work well when hunger for physically nourishing food is also fed.

It is quite celar that the less well nourished a person is the more poorly their minds' cognitive functions work.

By all means let us all address both forms of hunger, that of the body and that of the mind. 

May all people always be well-nourished in all things.

 

Namaste

 

Dear soul grigori R .G,

Yes whatever we do the work right faith right knowledge right conduct is important

then progress is getting good result

blessings

Grigori Rho Gharveyn said:

Dear brother Swamiji,

May we ask more about the interpetation of part of what you have shared here with the Three Jewels?

We are inquiring about this part near the end of your post:

,,, 'Right faith means a soul engrossed in itself'

May we ask you what this means in more detail?

We see possibilities here we like very much, but we would enjoy hearing your own views first, before possibly posting some misunderstanding that might make matters more confusing.

 

Thank you.

 

Namaste

 


aashirvaad ,

shubhakarji
N.Shubhakara Jain said:

Avyaktha pranamagalu

Latest media - Web media- attracts the most of the younger generations - feeding most necessity food- helps one and all to peace and prosporous world at  the earliest. Request one and all to act in this respect.

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