YOGA - what does it mean?
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Comment by Yogiraj Shamacharan Dev. Trust on December 2, 2011 at 3:43am
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Hello Spencer, Nice to have deep discussion and understanding. Please look into this link (from my Master) on supreme spiritual science - kriyayoga: http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritual-blogs/masters/science-of-spiri...
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Comment by Spencer Perdriau on December 1, 2011 at 2:08am
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Hi Sougata, and thanks.
Another way of describing my diagram below is like this - if it was turned at a 45 degree angle side on in 3D projection, each layer/region of reality would sit over the larger one underneath like stacked plates (or doughnuts) with a hole in the middle of each one, showing the boundless foundation of The Alpha/Omega in the very centre/heart of them all, as well as the pervading foundation of them all, and equally extending eternally outwards boundless beyond them all. Having described it like this, it almost tempts me to have a go at designing a new diagram in this way to describe it further...
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Dear Spencer, I misconstrued Alpha & Omega. Now I can understand. The chakras within our body are actually essences - Earth (Muladhara), Water (Svadisthana), Fire (Manipura), Air (Anahata), Space (Visuddha) and reflection of it we see externally. However, yogi realizes these essences after he goes beyond Space essence and gets engrossed in Anjna Chakra/Kutastha -Atmasurya or Soul Sun. Normal human being cannot have understanding on this before reaching space essence or beyond.
This space/void essence is also having attributes - far and distant. But yogi need to cross that and then he gets engrossed in attributeless Brahma or Void within void. Then he realizes the Omnipresent divine...pls read the link http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritual-blogs/masters/science-of-spiri...
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Thanks Sougata,
I hope my diagram was clear enough, and that it was also clear that the region of 0. Alpha and 0/11. Omega are the very same all pervasive boundless region of and throughout all expressive manifestation within That.
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Dear Ron, you are right. This eternally flowing all pervasive entity is religion...this is not manmade. However, due to yuga decadence people forget that all pervasive entity is religion. So unity amongst religion is already there but humanity lacking knowledge due to inadequate mental fortitude to practice and realize! People lack interest as they are externally oriented and internal orientation is necessary...
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Dear Spencer, Thanks for your elaborate work. Yogis start from beyond 0. Self Alpha region. Yogi has to go beyond light to attributeless state Brahma. About light please refer following link: http://www.speakingtree.in/spiritual-blogs/masters/god-and-i/Which-...
For Yogi till anything is visible duality is present. He need to merge in Brahma and thus non-dual state...that is liberation or ending incessent birth-death cycle...he returns to origin.
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PS: Dear Ron and Sougata,
Please note that my definition below "About Light Photons" is the extended version from the original version written in 1997. Here is the original 1997 version, taken from my first literary work, "What Am I & Why?"...
Light Photons: “And God said let there be Light, and there was Light.” – Genesis
At the quantum level of creation, light energy is everywhere and is the foundation of all manifestation, saturating the entire creation like an invisible sea of light. As we also read in the book of Genesis . . .
“And The Light shone in the darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not.”
At this sub-microcosmic unified level, subtle light is undetectable to the physical eye that operates on the larger, denser (dualistic) level. So The Light shines in all places equally. Even in the darkness where it is not comprehended or seen by relative eyes. Whichever way you go – in or out – God exists at both ends of the scale of creation. To know what exists beyond the universe, you can only find out by going within yourself, because the beginning and the end are the same. Why? Because God’s Spirit is everywhere… God’s Eternal Holy Spirit.
© Original Copyright Spencer Perdriau September 1997
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Thanks for stating this to us Ron, that is much appreciated. My hindu definitions are a little rusty at this stage of the game as my respect for such goes back to my early twenties when I was a devout reader of Paramahansa Yogananda's navy blue thick two volume of The Gita. I was thinking that Prana had more to do with the chakra's and the kundalini energy movements throughout their channels.
I appreciate the degrees from Unmanifest to manifest as an eternal two way flowing "spectrum", the micro/relative within the Macro/Absolute. Although all levels of reality have definite qualities (natures) to them, there is really no clear cut defining boundary/veil from one hierarchy level to the next, but rather the crossing of a merging threshold from one gradient to the next, keeping each level in order and of its respective nature. Having said that, the lesser regions of reality exist within and are sustained by the (next) greater regions (as described here in this diagram of mine)...
Here below is my definition about this spectrum I came up with back in September 1997, in my very first literary work, “What Am I & Why?” later to be titled, “Waves Upon The Ocean.” I finished the main structure of the manuscript around the week of Princess Diana’s and Mother Teresa’s passing, and so I decided to dedicate my first work to them. A few months later, my first printed copy was passed on to Deepak Chopra (with very bad consequences for me, due to my own young naivety and circumstances at the time, which I will not elaborate on the details here). Anyway, here is my definition of this “Spectrum”…
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About Light Photons
At the quantum level of reality, space is virtually flooded and saturated by an indivisible field of light show. Essentially, all manifest reality is causal light and of that. As Genesis proclaims, “And God said let there be light, and there was light.” Undetectable to the sensory level of reality, quantum photon light is invisible to the naked eye. As it is also written, “And the light shone in the darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not.” When this causal light becomes so-called denser, gross matter begins to take form, but essentially, it is still all light, and the main factor to remember here is that we are not merely light beings trapped in gross heavy matter, but everything, just as much as our being, is essentially one big indivisible light being in total. And the only reason why we experience all this infinite variety of seeming fragmented separateness, is due to how our brain and physical senses operate and register through individuality. But essentially and most importantly everything of manifest reality is just one big causal light being, ranging as a brilliant flowing spectrum from one extreme to the other.
© Original Copyright Spencer Perdriau September 1997
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Ron Krumpos said,
Dear Sougata, I reread Spencer's quote from his book and your previous comments. You are both speaking of the same state of ineffable Stillness of eternal life which emanates and sustains apparent, yet transitory, activities in this life.
Absolute universal law is not limited to any language, scripture, religion, or philosophy. It has no boundaries in space-time as it is infinite a
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Comment by Ron Krumpos on November 29, 2011 at 7:09pm -
Dear Sougata, I reread Spencer's quote from his book and your previous comments. You are both speaking of the same state of ineffable Stillness of eternal life which emanates and sustains apparent, yet transitory, activities in this life.
Absolute universal law is not limited to any language, scripture, religion, or philosophy. It has no boundaries in space-time as it is infinite and eternal. Yogis and other mystics realize it to various degrees, frequency and durations for each person and between people. Everyone is capable of this spiritual discernment, but most are unwilling to make the efforts and sacrifices to do so. Ongoing dedication is essential.
The divine is in us; we must actively be in the divine. Many talk or write about it...too few people live it. It is a pleasure to discuss this with both of you. Not too many people understand it (or even want to).
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Dear Ron, Thanks for your comments. You are right - it is Sanatana Dharma (eternal religion) which was referred by Sages. But Hinduism is not Sanatana Dharma. Sanatana Dharma is beyond ism and it is not manmade i.e. it has no birth date. There is no mention in ancient Indian sastras (Gita or before) the word 'Hindu'. Hindu has taken birth and is used for political/official usages.
Yes scholars batte over many terminologies about various types of Yoga. Jnanayoga is one chapter of Gita...when yogi envisions thousands sun like power within ....Jnana (Knowledge) evolves...it is a stage of a yoga practitioner. But yoga practitioner need to go beyond and merge beyond that in Brahma and thus liberates/emancipates himself and eternal bliss and peace prevails. Devotion comes after visualization of God Entity, before that how devotion can evolve Whom you have not seen?
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